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[09:51] necrophcodr: Alriht everyone. Anyone know of a way to get a KVM switch working with SliTaz?

[09:52] necrophcodr: been searching around on google for a few hours, couldn't really get anything useful.

[11:02] Erkan_Yilmaz: Trixar_za I could compile the source finally :-) for the future: should the --enable-cxx flag be enabled in db? if so, where to file a report?

[11:02] Erkan_Yilmaz: working on the receipt, but didn't work yet

[11:44] Trixar_za: dcosnet: I know of an 11 year old that wrote a whole Window shell with his friends. It was in Delphi, but still impressive. I think this Sam kid is just overhyped

[11:45] dcosnet: agreed

[11:46] dcosnet: just a rich kid thats getting lucky

[11:47] dcosnet: necrophcodr: a physical kvm switch has nothing to do with an OS

[11:55] Trixar_za: Hell, at 12/13 I was writing programs myself and it was in batch script - I later learned Pascal since they didn't teach us python back then - except my teacher took away marks because I started using advanced functions that she didn't teach us yet - also why I ended up quiting that class. Man, I hate rich kids

[11:56] Trixar_za: Oh right, I also learned Qbasic back when I was 14 too - lol

[11:56] Erkan_Yilmaz: we learned Turbo Pascal 5/6 in class 11/12 here

[11:56] Erkan_Yilmaz: qbasic was on MS dos, I remember the snake game

[11:57] Trixar_za: Yeah, we learned Turbo Pascal 6 too

[11:57] Trixar_za: This was in... 2000/2001 I think

[11:57] Erkan_Yilmaz: those were the times when you typed from magazines code into the pc ;-)

[11:57] Trixar_za: Normally the case

[11:58] Erkan_Yilmaz: well, that's how I started learning "programming"

[11:58] Trixar_za: Did you know the author Anthony Piers is a dedicated Linux user? I found that awesome.

[11:59] Erkan_Yilmaz: didn't know, reads http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piers_Anthony

[12:00] Trixar_za: Oops, swapped his name around

[12:00] Trixar_za: lol

[12:01] Trixar_za: Ok, the google image is pretty funny

[12:01] Trixar_za: They switch over to stats whenever the boss walks by

[12:05] Trixar_za: Mind you, I only got my first PC at 9, started fixing them myself at 11 and only officially got the internet when I was 19 when I worked my way online using a cellphone.

[12:06] Trixar_za: So I wasn't as lucky as our rich kid Sam, but it did teach me to work with nothing and find my own solutions rather than depend on the solutions of others

[12:06] Trixar_za: I built a freaking aircon with no specs or blueprint because it was Hot too

[12:08] Erkan_Yilmaz: don't know this Sam guy

[12:08] Erkan_Yilmaz: I started with c-64, but didn't fix on the hardware much there, except buy additional hardware. first hardware building was for the 286:

[12:09] Erkan_Yilmaz: bought a 20MB hd for 250 German DM :-( fucking expensive back then

[12:11] Erkan_Yilmaz: and internet I got started with FIDE mailbox systems, acusticcoplers

[12:12] Erkan_Yilmaz: and later modems and when at university: inet was free

[12:12] Erkan_Yilmaz: I remember still making my first HTML webpage

[12:13] Trixar_za: Yeah, that must have been something. Even when I started with HTML, it was still pretty hard for me to do.

[12:14] Erkan_Yilmaz: well, one couldn't do much with html back then, some formatting of text and add a picture

[12:14] Erkan_Yilmaz: man, Netscape was a nice browser back then

[12:40] Trixar_za: Mozilla is Netscape's legacy

[12:40] Trixar_za: Not so sure Firefox is as great as it once was. More bloat now

[12:41] Erkan_Yilmaz: yeah, also their DRM inclusion is not nice (though it has to be enabled), they should stand against DRM

[12:43] Trixar_za: Yeah, and pointing it out as a bug only gets you ignored

[12:44] Trixar_za: Along with the whole warning thing they keep writing in for the flash plugin

[12:45] Erkan_Yilmaz: what other choices are there? I see slitaz has midori

[12:46] Trixar_za: Yeah, Midori isn't that great

[12:47] Trixar_za: Not that anything based on QtWebKit is that great either - it's media support is broken

[12:50] Erkan_Yilmaz: well, from what I see it works for the compiled app (so it means it supports also JS)

[12:51] Trixar_za: SliTaz's midori doesn't support https though

[12:52] Trixar_za: And sometimes randomly crashes

[12:52] Trixar_za: But I think that may be the older WebKit that's used

[12:52] Trixar_za: It's not even Webkit 2

[12:54] Erkan_Yilmaz: I see

[12:56] Trixar_za: It also needs an external function to deal with ssl connections which SliTaz doesn't have

[12:56] Trixar_za: It's a library or daemon - I'm not sure

[12:56] Trixar_za: :P

[12:56] Erkan_Yilmaz: another todo

[12:59] Trixar_za: I'm not actually on #slitaz at the moment and probably won't use the new SliTaz 5 as it is now. I may make my own version of SliTaz, but built with an external tool that deals with some of the libraries and requirements for me.

[13:00] Trixar_za: If I can get off my ass and actually finish it

[13:02] Erkan_Yilmaz: when you are (half) there, make a ping

[13:09] Trixar_za: Well, there is a built image - several actually. I just haven't added the SliTaz scripts to it nor any reasonable interface (since Buildroot doesn't come with that)

[13:10] Trixar_za: Well, DEs anyway

[13:10] Trixar_za: It comes with GTK and Qt libraries and a few minor apps, but you have to do the rest

[13:16] Erkan_Yilmaz: sounds like it's easier for me to get a working receipt and use the current tazlito, ... ;-)

[13:20] Erkan_Yilmaz: I had some trouble with the app, but now a test finished and I now know, that it works for sure

[13:21] Erkan_Yilmaz: will try the receipt for it soonish

[14:20] necrophcodr: dcosnet: If you're still there

[14:20] necrophcodr: dcosnet: It shouldn't have anything to do with the OS, but can you then explain why the KVM switch works fine on Windows Server 2008 and doesn't on SliTaz?

[14:41] dcosnet: is it a hotkey system? or a digital button on the device?

[14:41] dcosnet: mine: a linksys proconnect uses both and works fine anywhere

[14:41] dcosnet: maybe yours is a fake one and uses software for some strange reason

[14:42] dcosnet: did it require a driver on windows?

[14:51] necrophcodr: dcosnet: I'm not actually sure. I'll have to look that up, and I'll post back later. Possibly tomorrow. I have to leave for now though, so it's a problem that'll be solved another time.

[15:03] dcosnet: ok good luck

[15:14] Erkan_Yilmaz: working now on the receipt

[15:14] Erkan_Yilmaz: cook appname gives:

[15:15] Erkan_Yilmaz: wget: can't open /home/slitaz/src: Is a directory

[15:15] Erkan_Yilmaz:
ACTION dives in

[15:19] Erkan_Yilmaz:
ACTION looks at pre_install() doc

[15:21] Erkan_Yilmaz: it seems as if the wget doesn't work from the receipt, but I checked manually and wget works

[15:26] Erkan_Yilmaz: will do now interactive mode in cook

[15:26] Erkan_Yilmaz: I wonder why it's not working, cooking with the receipts of db db-dev libdb worked

[15:32] Erkan_Yilmaz: cook starts now to download some packages, seems interactive helped

[15:35] Erkan_Yilmaz: about receipt: I just filled in BUILD_DEPENDS all packages needed, but left DEPENDS empty

[15:35] Erkan_Yilmaz: good idea?

[15:37] Erkan_Yilmaz:
ACTION watches how cook goes into make-step. seems to work, c o o l

[15:40] Erkan_Yilmaz:
ACTION reads now tazlito doc

[20:00] Erkan_Yilmaz: still cooking :-( damn makefile

[20:00] Erkan_Yilmaz: hope this will be the last time I cook