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[00:48] cooking20140216: hmph

[00:48] cooking20140216: well ;)

[03:28] sixy-home--: slitaz coooking works in vbox

[04:08] yangkun: hello, why i cant use the command "dpkg -i *.deb" on Slitaz since it is in the command list ?

[04:14] sixy-home: um?

[04:15] sixy-home: and you are trying to run this on slitaz?

[04:15] sixy-home: sorry... u answered that

[04:15] sixy-home: you must convert .deb into .tazpkg prior to install

[04:15] sixy-home: 'tazpkg convert *.deb'

[04:15] sixy-home: 'tazpkg install *.tazpkg'

[04:17] yangkun: thanks, i do know tazpkg can convert deb. just curious why i cant use "dpkg" directly

[04:17] yangkun: it is involved in slitaz

[04:17] sixy-home: not sure about dpkg never used it on slitaz

[04:18] yangkun: that's ok, thank you for your reply.

[05:26] yangkun: /part

[05:49] sixy-home:
ACTION pokes Trixar_za

[11:59] tux_: is it possible to install skype to slitaz anf how

[12:05] tux_: anyone_

[14:28] auracalanche: I need some help w gnu/linux, can you??

[14:41] tkx: hello guys, sorry for not digging up too much open bugs, forums etc but i have this quite weird problem.. neither slitaz 4 nor newest cooking will boot on my laptop althourgh they do work on other computers i have.. after starting to boot laptop simply turns off.. doesn't hang or anything but just power off. any idea? fs amilo pro v2040, about 1.66GHz P4 M, 1GB DDR2

[14:55] dlorh: strange problem..

[14:55] dlorh: and.. did you try to watch for wchich step slitaz stop to shutdown?

[14:57] tkx: it goes pretty fast but it doesn't look like normal booting procedure

[14:57] tkx: probably has something to do with hardware..

[18:09] sixy-work:
ACTION pokes Trixar_za

[18:09] sixy-work: Trixar_za why are we 10mb bigger

[19:29] tux_: TazBot:help

[19:29] TazBot: I can answer any question directed at me (by putting "TazBot:" before the question) that falls within my answers database (use "TazBot: topics" to see them). I can also answer questions containing topics ("TazBot: How do I become root?"). You can also ask me questions in private: "/msg TazBot topics".

[19:32] sixy-work: i thought you got rid of this tazbot before the question thing

[20:21] Trixar_za: More stuff equals bigger iso sizes

[20:21] Trixar_za: Also that one library to support pdf files grows every year

[20:23] sixy-work: I SEE

[20:23] sixy-work: i see*

[20:23] sixy-work: so we switched to spacefm?

[20:24] Trixar_za: Easiest way to get away from the bloat that LXDE has become

[20:25] sixy-work: hmph

[20:26] sixy-work: im gonna submit a bug with this

[20:26] sixy-work: rtl8187

[20:26] sixy-work: i had to install firmware

[20:26] sixy-work: usbutils and dependencies

[20:26] sixy-work: to get it running

[20:28] Trixar_za: Oh right, they upped the usbutils to officially be version 2.0, didn't they?

[20:28] Trixar_za: Which reminds me - I need to up the version requirements for Sakis3G

[20:30] sixy-work: yeah

[20:30] sixy-work: hmm wait i need to check on that

[20:30] sixy-work: but something is wrong with it

[20:30] sixy-work: along with the rtl8187

[20:30] sixy-work: also

[20:30] sixy-work: tazhw detected-modules

[20:31] sixy-work: does not show the rtl8187 moule loaded

[20:31] sixy-work: which is supposed to show all pci/usb modules loaded if im correct

[20:31] Trixar_za: usb_modeswitch finally moved away from legacy usbutils, so it needs the newer version to run.

[20:31] sixy-work: k

[20:31] Trixar_za: This means I'll have to break away version wise for SliTaz 5

[20:31] sixy-work: so looks like there is error with tazhw detected-modules some where there too

[20:31] Trixar_za: So SliTaz 4 will be the old one and development will continue with SliTaz 5 and newer Linuxes

[20:31] sixy-work: i wont be able t otest that again untill i get home...

[20:32] sixy-work: nice

[20:32] sixy-work: so tazhw not showing

[20:32] sixy-work: loaded modules

[20:32] sixy-work: because of older version of usbutils?

[20:32] sixy-work: btw the version now is like 1.3. i think

[20:32] sixy-work: let me see

[20:33] Trixar_za: Why do I have an OKCupid registration?

[20:34] Trixar_za: I'm still not a fan of spacefm

[20:34] sixy-work: okcupid?

[20:34] sixy-work: u shouldnt have that

[20:34] sixy-work: i thought you liked spacefm..

[20:34] Trixar_za: I would have gone full RazorQt (because it has pcmanfmqt) or XFCE

[20:35] sixy-work: usbutils-007.tazpkg

[20:35] sixy-work: i have no clue what version usbutils is then...

[20:35] sixy-work: infact i should see

[20:35] sixy-work: if usbutils is even instaleld with this cooking....

[20:35] Trixar_za: It's not. It uses busybox's usb stuff

[20:36] sixy-work: nope

[20:36] sixy-work: not installed

[20:39] sixy-work: usbutils nowhere to be found on cooking

[20:39] Trixar_za: Don't worry about it - it's only important for compiling utils that need it (like usb_modeswitch)

[20:39] Trixar_za: :P

[20:40] sixy-work: hmph

[20:40] sixy-work: i thought u needed usbutils

[20:40] sixy-work: oh ya

[20:40] sixy-work: you are right ok

[20:40] sixy-work: never had usbutils before either had to install it

[20:40] sixy-work: my headphones

[20:40] sixy-work: needed that to work

[20:41] sixy-work: g930 logitech

[20:41] sixy-work: ok u r right

[20:41] sixy-work: but

[20:41] sixy-work: how do you explain my rtl8187 not working then

[20:41] sixy-work: firmware must not be in place

[20:41] sixy-work: lsmod shows current loaded modules ?

[20:42] Trixar_za: Yeah, but it can get pretty long

[20:42] Trixar_za: use it with a | grep

[20:42] sixy-work: pretty bad using grep

[20:43] sixy-work: current lsmod pretty short

[20:43] sixy-work: cooking in vbox

[20:46] sixy-work: i see 0 modules for wifi

[20:46] sixy-work: in my packages @.@

[20:52] sixy-work: ya ill have to test at home with adapter in

[20:52] sixy-work: ..

[21:09] dupin: how can i install skype in slitaz?

[21:09] Trixar_za: TazBot: skype

[21:09] TazBot: Trixar_za: Skype is a chat and VOIP client. You install it by first installing the get-skype package and allowing it to download it's dependencies. If it doesn't automatically start downloading these files, you need to run get-skype as root from your terminal. See: Become Root

[21:10] dupin: will try

[21:15] dupin: good and bad in same time

[21:15] dupin: I installed it but i can not run it :(

[21:16] dupin: when I click on icon it doesn´t start app

[21:17] Trixar_za: What happens when you run it from the command line?

[21:17] sixy-work: hmph

[21:19] sixy-work: gonna try this

[21:19] sixy-work: fetching skype..

[21:20] sixy-work: dupin, what verison slitaz? cooking ? 4.0 ?

[21:21] sixy-work: Trixar_za, how do i see what modules are available for me to load ?

[21:22] dupin: just a sec it is slitaz 5.0 cooking

[21:23] sixy-work: k

[21:23] sixy-work: first off

[21:23] sixy-work: usbutils-007.tazpkg

[21:23] sixy-work: wasnt

[21:23] sixy-work: sorry not that

[21:23] sixy-work: unable to fetch dependencie

[21:23] sixy-work: get-libQTwebkit

[21:24] sixy-work: also

[21:24] sixy-work: libQTbus

[21:24] sixy-work: both

[21:24] sixy-work: fail to fetch

[21:24] dupin: skype: error while loading shared libraries: libQtDBus.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

[21:24] sixy-work: during install

[21:24] sixy-work: yap...

[21:24] sixy-work: download

[21:24] Trixar_za: So install them manually - osmebody should also fix that receipt

[21:24] Trixar_za: :P

[21:24] sixy-work: yap

[21:24] sixy-work: ill submit bug tracker

[21:24] sixy-work: ... right now

[21:25] dupin: so I need to install libQTbus

[21:25] dupin: do I have to reinstall skype after that

[21:26] sixy-work: no

[21:26] sixy-work: libqtbus

[21:26] sixy-work: and

[21:26] sixy-work: libqtwebkit

[21:26] sixy-work: both mate

[21:26] sixy-work: http://bugs.slitaz.org/

[21:26] sixy-work: broken

[21:26] sixy-work: can confirm? trixies

[21:34] dupin: libgstapp is missin now :(

[21:35] Trixar_za: Again? Oo

[21:35] Trixar_za: Dammit - it is broken

[21:36] Trixar_za: Ironically, it's where you'd report that it was broken too

[21:37] dupin: I can not find that package why is that

[21:49] sixy-work: hmph

[21:49] sixy-work: that i couldnt now tell u

[21:49] sixy-work: make sure spelling ?

[21:49] sixy-work: i did not say it needed that ..

[21:49] sixy-work: testing..

[21:49] sixy-work: ok so bugs broken...

[21:49] sixy-work: lame

[21:49] sixy-work: shit is braking too much on the site

[21:49] sixy-work: i dont get it

[21:51] dupin: spelling is ok

[21:52] dupin: look this is a strory about slitaz

[21:53] dupin: one old laptop need to work and skype one of main thing on that laptop

[21:54] dupin: i would like t oinstall slitaz but if skype doesn´t work there is no point

[21:55] Trixar_za: Spare me the rant

[21:55] Trixar_za: Try Puppy and be happy

[21:55] sixy-work: dupin

[21:55] sixy-work: you are running cooking

[21:55] sixy-work: what do you expect? why dont you try slitaz 4.0

[21:55] sixy-work: everything should just about work...

[21:56] sixy-work: do you know what cooking means?

[21:56] sixy-work: means hella broken

[21:56] sixy-work: lol

[21:56] sixy-work: but that package

[21:56] sixy-work: doesnt exist

[21:56] sixy-work: i have to download other stuff to

[21:56] sixy-work: duplicate your issue..

[21:57] dupin: I think this cooking is better then previous version but I know what cooking mean

[21:58] Trixar_za: Actually, it's broken in stable too

[21:58] sixy-work: ? how

[21:58] Trixar_za: But that's because Skype keeps upping it's requirements

[21:58] sixy-work: is it broken in stable

[21:58] sixy-work: m yskype ran just fine

[21:58] Trixar_za: Yeah, the older one. The newest one doesn't

[21:59] sixy-work: yeah older

[21:59] dupin: Trixar_za: if I wanted Puppy I will install it

[21:59] sixy-work: fuck puppy

[21:59] Trixar_za: Point is, if you want Skype, you have to wait until we update the requirements and downloader script

[21:59] dupin: do I have to defend myself if I want slitaz to work

[21:59] sixy-work: hmph

[22:00] Trixar_za: The more packages we have, the more effort we have to put in to stay on top of all of them

[22:00] sixy-work: yap hella broken

[22:00] Trixar_za: And honestly, we're kind of falling behind on that front

[22:00] dupin: Trixar_za I can understand that but can you give me some kind of time frame

[22:01] Trixar_za: Puppy should have atleast a working copy of Skype based on the older version

[22:01] Trixar_za: dupin, probably a month or two after version 5's release

[22:01] Trixar_za: Which will hopefully be by March/April this year

[22:02] dupin: Trixar_za: tnx for your time and advice and same to others who helped me ;)

[22:02] dupin: I wish you lot of good coding

[22:02] dupin: bye

[22:03] sixy-work: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=lucid&arch=i386&mode=exactfilename&searchon=contents&keywords=libgstapp-0.10.so.0&sort_by=pkg

[22:03] sixy-work: scrub left

[22:03] sixy-work: no fix for him

[22:04] Trixar_za: Eh, he'll be back

[22:04] Trixar_za: At the moment they're working on OS important dependencies

[22:05] Trixar_za: Which is why I said that Skype and everything else will only get worked on after all that is fixed

[22:05] Trixar_za: That's what happened last time anyway

[22:08] sixy-work: wow i got an error converting this deb

[22:08] sixy-work: sed: bad option in subtitution expresion

[22:08] sixy-work: wtf

[22:09] sixy-work: maybe this next one will work

[22:09] Trixar_za: They probably changed sed's syntax

[22:09] sixy-work: my skype

[22:09] sixy-work: bug didnt go thorugh

[22:09] sixy-work: bug tracker...

[22:09] sixy-work: i mean bug reporter

[22:10] Trixar_za: You also have to specify at compile time how compatible you really want syntax for it's tools to be

[22:10] Trixar_za: It's a pain

[22:10] Trixar_za: And it's sad that I know that now

[22:10] sixy-work: this might convert

[22:10] sixy-work: its i386 rpm

[22:10] sixy-work: o i see

[22:11] sixy-work: i dont like how there is not much of output

[22:11] sixy-work: during tazpkg convert

[22:11] sixy-work: it just goes to next line blenk

[22:11] sixy-work: blank

[22:11] sixy-work: taking forever..

[22:11] sixy-work: how do i know its not stuck now

[22:11] Trixar_za: The bigger the package, the longer it takes

[22:12] Trixar_za: Well, the size of the package and it's requirement list

[22:12] Trixar_za: Some small packages can take for ever since they have like 100+ requirements

[22:27] sixy-work: its done

[22:27] sixy-work: u are right

[22:27] sixy-work: im attempt to install it now

[22:27] sixy-work: 13 dependancies

[22:27] sixy-work: missing

[22:27] sixy-work: lol

[22:27] sixy-work: fethching 1 by 1 ...

[22:27] sixy-work: new slitaz lok is awesome

[22:28] sixy-work: and the new bar up top

[22:28] sixy-work: perl python

[22:28] sixy-work: wow

[22:28] sixy-work: so much need to install for this

[22:28] sixy-work: something is not right

[22:28] sixy-work: perl now

[22:29] Trixar_za: Oh right, that requirement is to provide scripting language interfaces for programs that is built with it

[22:32] sixy-work: now python

[22:32] sixy-work: lol

[22:33] sixy-work: it keeps going on and on

[22:33] sixy-work: na actually nt so bad

[22:33] sixy-work: its on python now

[22:33] sixy-work: that scrub left

[22:33] sixy-work: and this might just fix skype on slitaz...

[22:34] sixy-work: but

[22:34] sixy-work: there just too much tied to this

[22:34] sixy-work: either something is wrong

[22:34] sixy-work: wich almost it is

[22:34] sixy-work: size went up

[22:34] sixy-work: and its missing more

[22:34] sixy-work: according to skype install @.@

[22:34] sixy-work: for all i know at this point its installing all packages in repo lol

[22:35] sixy-work: well its done

[22:35] sixy-work: .. time to find out

[22:35] sixy-work: and ...

[22:35] sixy-work: SKYPE WORKS

[22:40] sixy-work: k

[22:41] sixy-work: skype issue worked

[23:16] sixy-work: logged into skype..

[23:16] sixy-work: works good

[23:16] sixy-work: i cant see mto move the chat box

[23:16] sixy-work: eww

[23:17] sixy-work: ya

[23:17] sixy-work: thats bad bug